Comments on: India: Keeping it in the family http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family The Trials and Tribulations of a British Expat Living in India Fri, 04 May 2012 08:45:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Zoheb http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family/comment-page-1#comment-5254 Zoheb Wed, 13 May 2009 15:31:19 +0000 http://www.peterclaridge.com/?p=304#comment-5254 Im from Chennai which is in South India, and I recently read an article about a little girl marrying a frog. Last year I read one about marrying a dog, and another a tree. Humans are interesting :) By the way these marriages were for spiritual and superstitious reasons. I doubt the woman was in love with the tree! Marrying relatives is actually very very common in India. But someone as close as a mothers brother is rare. But it does happen regularly. Zoheb Im from Chennai which is in South India, and I recently read an article about a little girl marrying a frog. Last year I read one about marrying a dog, and another a tree. Humans are interesting :)

By the way these marriages were for spiritual and superstitious reasons. I doubt the woman was in love with the tree!

Marrying relatives is actually very very common in India. But someone as close as a mothers brother is rare. But it does happen regularly.

Zoheb

]]> By: Fay http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family/comment-page-1#comment-5238 Fay Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:10:28 +0000 http://www.peterclaridge.com/?p=304#comment-5238 Suffolk!?! I think your talking about Norfolk! How could you confuse the two!? There's a phrase used by medical proffessionals in Norfolk - NFN - Normal for Norfolk. It's used to describe conditions that are the result of inbreeding, or just odd or not particularly bright people. And yes some people up in Norfolk do have webbed feet. Suffolk!?! I think your talking about Norfolk!

How could you confuse the two!?

There’s a phrase used by medical proffessionals in Norfolk – NFN – Normal for Norfolk. It’s used to describe conditions that are the result of inbreeding, or just odd or not particularly bright people.

And yes some people up in Norfolk do have webbed feet.

]]> By: admin http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family/comment-page-1#comment-5237 admin Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:47:52 +0000 http://www.peterclaridge.com/?p=304#comment-5237 It is illegal in England (not sure about in Suffolk! All have webbed feet, I've heard). The jury is out on whether you are legally allowed to marry your cousin in England though. Even if you are, it doesn't make it right. We're fairly certain that marriage to your second cousin is legally ok. Further discussion on this subject reveals that it *used* to be fairly common in poorer families because the bride's parents would no longer have to pay a large dowry for the wedding and to the groom's parents. Hence the phrase "keeping [the wealth] in the family". It is illegal in England (not sure about in Suffolk! All have webbed feet, I’ve heard). The jury is out on whether you are legally allowed to marry your cousin in England though. Even if you are, it doesn’t make it right. We’re fairly certain that marriage to your second cousin is legally ok.

Further discussion on this subject reveals that it *used* to be fairly common in poorer families because the bride’s parents would no longer have to pay a large dowry for the wedding and to the groom’s parents. Hence the phrase “keeping [the wealth] in the family”.

]]> By: sarah! http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family/comment-page-1#comment-5236 sarah! Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:12:05 +0000 http://www.peterclaridge.com/?p=304#comment-5236 ohmygod... there are many things very wrong with marrying your uncle, indeed, what in the world is right about it...?? it is illegal in england... isn't it!! ohmygod… there are many things very wrong with marrying your uncle, indeed, what in the world is right about it…?? it is illegal in england… isn’t it!!

]]> By: Fay http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family/comment-page-1#comment-5234 Fay Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:26:26 +0000 http://www.peterclaridge.com/?p=304#comment-5234 Sorry, I have no idea why I wrote the line 'now imagine this'...maybe it was meant ot come later. Sorry, I have no idea why I wrote the line ‘now imagine this’…maybe it was meant ot come later.

]]> By: Fay http://peterclaridge.me/india-keeping-it-in-the-family/comment-page-1#comment-5233 Fay Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:24:25 +0000 http://www.peterclaridge.com/?p=304#comment-5233 Blimey. The only mention in that Wikipedia article of insest being permitted is South India. Someone might want to change the tense of this part of the wikipedia article to present: "In some South Indian communities, where gotra membership passed from father to children, marriages were allowed between uncle and niece, while such marriages were forbidden in matrilineal communities, like Malayalis and Tuluvas, where gotra membership was passed down from the mother." Now imagine this I guess since family line is passed from the father to his children, the brother of the mother is not considered part of the family..until you see the genes! Cultural beliefs aren't going to stop the offspring from being inbred! Poor woman. Bit of maths thinking and if this happened every generation, then this woman's children would have only have one distinct pair of great^n-grandparents. Ie instead of 2 pairs of grandparents, they have 1, cos the other is also their great grandparents. Instead of 4 pairs of great-grandparents, they have 1, because others are also great-great grandparents or great-great-great grandparents. In the other direction, say Preity and Nagesh decide that they want some of their great^n-grandchildren to be (2*2^n - 1)/(2*2^n) their genes, they just start this custom! Their grandchildren will be 1/2 thier genes (like normal), their great-grandchildren will be 3/4 their genes (not like normal), their great-great-grandchildren will be be 7/8 their genes, their great-great-great grandchildren will be 15/16 their genes....that can't be healthy! Blimey. The only mention in that Wikipedia article of insest being permitted is South India.

Someone might want to change the tense of this part of the wikipedia article to present:

“In some South Indian communities, where gotra membership passed from father to children, marriages were allowed between uncle and niece, while such marriages were forbidden in matrilineal communities, like Malayalis and Tuluvas, where gotra membership was passed down from the mother.”

Now imagine this

I guess since family line is passed from the father to his children, the brother of the mother is not considered part of the family..until you see the genes! Cultural beliefs aren’t going to stop the offspring from being inbred!

Poor woman.

Bit of maths thinking and if this happened every generation, then this woman’s children would have only have one distinct pair of great^n-grandparents. Ie instead of 2 pairs of grandparents, they have 1, cos the other is also their great grandparents. Instead of 4 pairs of great-grandparents, they have 1, because others are also great-great grandparents or great-great-great grandparents.

In the other direction, say Preity and Nagesh decide that they want some of their great^n-grandchildren to be (2*2^n – 1)/(2*2^n) their genes, they just start this custom! Their grandchildren will be 1/2 thier genes (like normal), their great-grandchildren will be 3/4 their genes (not like normal), their great-great-grandchildren will be be 7/8 their genes, their great-great-great grandchildren will be 15/16 their genes….that can’t be healthy!

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